What is A Soul? Myth Broken!
Upanishads say a soul is ever pure, unstained, and eternal; it can’t be killed or destroyed or harmed in any way. And moreover… a soul is God (read Isha Upanishad). Most of the spiritual Gurus and books claim about soul purity, irrespective to mind’s impurity, mind is considered separate from the soul. Here, mind isn’t the brain (a physical aspect) –otherwise astral travel isn’t possible. But, how a soul can separate from the mind? A mind appears to be the part of the soul … within the soul.
I’m neither challenging Scriptures & Spiritual Gurus, nor proving anything. But, it makes more sense to me that: the mind is within the soul. Not only mind but “intellect” and “resolves” are within the soul also. A soul = mind + intellect +resolves. In Hindi they are: mann, buddhi and sanskar. And, if a mind is impure, a soul is also impure – it’s not against the stream talk, but I’m just talking about practicality. Here, we’ll just discuss the mind in respect to the soul and in coming articles about other areas.
A mind is within the soul because –
The people, who remember about past lives or go in past lives, just because their mind has ever been with their soul. A mind travels one life to another life with the soul; if you don’t believe this, then going in past life is just an illusion, a self-created fantasy … nothing more.
If a mind is impure, a soul is never pure. If a soul is pure then why mind doesn’t become pure? Where a soul is considered equivalent to God and mind is considered non-existential. Isn’t it looking funny? The reality is: if a mind is pure, a soul is pure; if a mind is impure, a soul is impure.
The reason of impurity –
People make us learn, that you are a soul not the mind. And we feel safe that whatever nonsense we are doing, it is our mind only. And become irresponsible from our wrongdoings … because this is the mind, and we are not that, though we enjoy all the bullshit in life. What a great understood misunderstanding?
I explained most of the Upanishads and three types of Gita in this blog, and I’m not saying they are wrong or any Guru is wrong. But, I need answers what I’m talking about.
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hmmm…makes sense to me.
hmm :)
Good One Guru Talks
Namah Shivay.
Thanks Gaurav!
here i would also like to add tht v all r just reading our holy books…whtevr our religion but hve stpped thnkng n somewhre v hve embded in r brains n r mking d sme foundation mistake for nxt gnration
tht not to tlk agnst thse as GOD will gt angry n mayb punish us in sumwy or other
i dnt knw whether its right or wrng but i feel it is all a brain game of pundits in all religions… v call thm by diff names…in diff religions
supporting here if mind was not within soul thn wat r v here for?????
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v as souls hve cum to njoy / lrn / bcum more pure…..all thse r mind felt n learnt because soul is jst prt of DIVINE…..it already knws wht v wnt to lrn tht is y v say trn inward /// inner concious or whtevr name…
soul cannot feel any emotions or karmas . it is the brain within it tht experiences , learns , collects n carries infrmation wid soul as n whre it goes for its nxt journey
gud or bad is hw v perceive bt whn v do nt gt ans frm astrology / horroscope or whtevr thn d final rply is …..kuchh pichhle janmo ka den len hoga
if ths is so thn it dfntly proves tht mind is within d soul who learns more n more by evry rebirth n carries d infrmtn to nxt brth
sometms one thng is v diffclt for 1 prsn bt smeone else alrdy knws it sub conciusly….mainly say for meditation / dhyaan / astral projection etc
which means tht soul has knowledge within its brain of all ths frm sum past lives ……evn if v read abt einstein or any other researcher say issac thy hve answrd v don,t knw hw it clicked …but it clicked….sometimes thse ppl were experimenting somethng else bt cme out wid an entrly diff ans …. infact for a ques nt asked….n aftr d discvry anthr ques came into existence…..ths mns tht somewhre ths ws inpresent in their subconcious mind…..maybGOD gift but their soul definetely had a vessel called mind …..conciously in physical body called brain to hld dis information….as r concious brain is definetly dependent / related / in harmony to r sb concious mind
Thanks Meeti!
Meeti – as per my opinion there r no rebirths and transfer of ‘poorav’ karmas. I wil explain mythological karmas later. Actuålly wht v do now good or bad retaliates instantly. It is not that if u r striking some1 and he is not going to strike u back as u had gud karmas in yor previos birth. U r to get gud 4 gud and bad 4 bad actions. Actually our qualities r genetic and environment affected and not as per poorv karmas.
Karmas which r preached 4 selfish interests r naam, daan, ishnaan and pooja. Naam ie God’s name is given by guru and disciple has to be faithful to him and offer him dakshina. Daan ie donations at religious places not to needy persons, again filling pockets of guru who taught naam and daan. Ishnan means bathing at holy places and thereafter pooja with monetary offerings to please God by deposits in guru pockets. By doing so sins of ppl r washed off even then how much corrupt they are. Poor and ignorant ppl have been being exploited since centuries in this way.
i need to know wht do u mean by mythological karmas
thre r mny thngs whch do nt hve an explanation …like i m not on gud terms wid my mom….she was destined to b my mom …thn wat
like evn on knowing n studying so hrd 1 kid fails n 1 knws ththe has nt dne well yet passes
one is a theif
one is spiritual
one is a rapist a murderer
pls xplain these r vry small xamples m giving frm daily life….thre r mny more if v try to peep deeper
Meeti -there are two types of actions or karmas good or bad and one should do good without longing for heaven or kingdom in next life which our scriptures & so called gurus assure us.
Few xmpls of myth karmas or karamkands are like, if u will recite a particular mantra u wil b blessed with a son,or pass an exam, win a court case, get a gud health, wealth, a gud partner, prosper life and ….so on. Similarly different types of so called actions preached y dharam gurus which revolve around them and which assure u heaven, and rescue in next birth all are myths.
The universal good karamas are – to be kind to others, to be truthful, to do ur duty honestly,to help the needy, to love and serve the humankind, have respect for all. such karmas bring u peace and u r loved y all.
U r not at gud terms with ur mom is not a matter of destiny or poorav karmas, this is a way of thinking only, it may be due to difference of opinion between u and ur mom or other various factors u better know.
One study hard but fails and 1 doing less passes exam is also not due to poorav karmas, you know exam is a chance. One studied much but not found studied questions in exam & other studied less but found all studied questions there in exam and the result was according to a chance and not destiny r karma.
Other examples like one is spritual,others thief, a rapist, murderer is not due to poorv karmas but they are as per their attitude,nature, psychology and the company or environment they keep or belong to.
@Meeti, Please, check:
http://www.gurutalks.com/2010/11/all-details-truth-mystery-of-previous-birth-yes-past-life/
i agree to dis but attitude,nature,enviornment r all due to a place whre 1 is born…precisely family
thn he lrns thru traditions etc
now taking birth in a specific family is not attitude,nature,psychology
definetly things which matter in dis universe give us choices…like career,
frinds,
but thngs of astral universe do not gve choices after birth . i .e parents.family.bros n sis
we r gvn such situations to lrn …no one is bad…thy r our teachers as thy teach us wht v lack n our ego is nt ready to accept dis
the moment ego drops 1 is in a bliss n thn thre r no problems
Meeti -very nice to xchg thoughts wid u. It is very natural, when one is helpless, unable to revert the unfavourable situations, one concieves something 4 consolation that is what is called god, destiny poorva karamas/or except that we follow blindly what has have had been followed by our forefathers.
Initially when human beings were uncivilized, had a same type of life, with no property, no luxaries,no coocked foods,no clothes to wear,no roof over head other than caves,no poor, no rich, no address, no country,no dharmas, no philosphies,and no traditions, there was no god,no destiny,no poorav karmas.
By an by when human race developed, started agro cultivation and living in groups under thatched roofs,they were disturbed by natural clamities like rains,floods, windy cyclones and fires in jungles which they concieved as some power angry upon them and started worshiping ,water, air and fire as gods. Gradually such practices went on taking various shapes and definitions as per various groups of ppl or tribes and whosoever born in particular tribe fallowed same without any ‘kintu prantu’ ie without ‘buts & ifs.
It is a very long sub an it will become a buk if i expln.
Just not going to rebirth i give u an xmpl – think a man had first birth that was in a bad family, which karmas contributed to such a birth, pl reply. Meeti do u know Hindi?
namaste
m v wl vrsd in hndi / pnjbi n snskrt
anyhow
answering yr ques
a soul keeps taking rebirth till it has learnt n enjoyed all earthly pleasures
like a poor man did not njoy mony n its rltd plsurs in past bt hs wrkd hard labour so nxt he takes a body whre he is bttr off wid mny mttrs bt less of hand labour
now d past karmas r repaid…like being poor he mst hve borrowed / stolen / cheated smeone fr money
it ws nt wrng as hev hd to exprnce n lrn all tht
now he hs mny so he repaysby charity
ppl cht hi
he is robbed
whtevr his past karmas
thse cn b over mny lives
i wld jst like to add here ….. past is past
one shd nt waste dis precious life specially whn so mch of chnge in matrix
mny in fact all thngs,,,,if u blve hve to b left to HIM
We have come here as pure souls. During our incarnations, we created a new file karma which is been attached to our self in our consequent lives, which may be a good karma or else. When we vol to astral world after leaving the physical body every souls is given cbonce to desiderata shatter sort of life we should take from a random life style s. They are all connected to fulfil and clearl past karma with the souls for which we have given comfort or dis comfort. Even after taking birth choice is left to us to clearly it or not . If we clearly it by comforting the souls to wnich we treated bad in one or more pazt lives. This cy, left continues till we clear the sames. During meditation we can see the bad or good karmas and difectly we can comunicate with the souls where we treated bad and can pledge flr forgiveness . Then tbat karma will be nullified. All these are secured in causal body wbich forms as other one the soul. When we clearoff karmas then we xetacb causal body from us and that state is called as mukti. Mind, causal body, astral bodies exists as othing to the souls. They are not within.